Episodes

Wednesday May 19, 2021
Phil Hellmuth / Professional Poker Player / 15 WSOP Bracelets / $24,417,333
Wednesday May 19, 2021
Wednesday May 19, 2021
Phil Hellmuth is back once again! This time Phil and Jeff will discuss how they are currently managing their business dealings whilst still crushing it in the world of Poker. Phil shares how poker has led to several opportunities and how he balances his poker, businesses, friendships and family. Also, make sure you tune in to hear some stories about Stephen Curry, Tiger Woods and Steve Martin.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Phil Hellmuth in this episode:
- Phil’s heads up competition with Daniel Negreanu
- How Phil manages the balance between playing poker and being an ambassador
- The business deals Phil and Jeff are making
- What is the current landscape of poker coming out of COVID-19
- The potential of a docuseries made about Phil
- Stephen Curry’s poker chops
- Tiger Woods & Steve Martin stories
Timestamps:
- 0:00 – Introduction
- 1:00 – Recap of Heads Up with Daniel & Antonio
- 7:20 – How to balance playing poker vs endorsing poker
- 13:25 – Focussing on family whilst crushing it in business
- 18:00 – Would Phil ever coach poker?
- 21:20 – Fallout with other poker players
- 25:30 – The current landscape of poker
- 29:00 – Playing WSOP Summer
- 32:00 – TV series made about Phil
- 35:40 – Knockout tournaments
- 40:00 – Stephen Curry playing poker
- 44:35 – Olympics opening ceremony
- 46:45 – Memories blending together
- 47:35 – Positives from the pandemic
- 50:00 – Opportunities made from poker
- 55:00 – Secrets to success
- 1:02:40 – Maximizing life chapters and giving to family
- 1:04:45 – Competition and final thoughts
Episode Resources:
- Phil’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/philhellmuthpositivity/?hl=en
- Phil’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/Phil_Hellmuth
- Phil’s Poker Stats: https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=117
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Wednesday May 19, 2021
Matthew Staples / partypoker Team Online / Twitch Streamer / Content Creator
Wednesday May 19, 2021
Wednesday May 19, 2021
Matthew Staples is back on the podcast! In this episode, Matthew discusses how he has grown his Twitch and how his life and poker game have changed with his Twitch success. You’ll hear all about his weight loss bet with Jaime Staples and how it helped him improve his mental clarity for playing poker on long streams. Also, you’ll hear how to create a strategy for avoiding burnout whilst growing your Twitch and YouTube audience.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Matthew in this episode:
- How Matthew’s Twitch streaming started to boom
- Why Matt is studying harder than ever to play high stakes poker
- The weight loss bet and journey, how eating less energised Matthew’s streaming
- How to ride the Twitch grind and avoiding burnout
- Advice on making a unique stream and how to play multiple tables
- Ideas to grow a poker-based YouTube channel
Timestamps:
- 0:00 – Introduction
- 0:15 – Welcoming Matthew to the episode
- 1:15 – The good and bad of 2020
- 6:00 – Poker game evolution
- 8:45 – WPT & Largest Twitch Score
- 10:45 – How Matthew grew his streaming career
- 14:05 – Weight loss bet with Jaime Staples
- 26:30 – Being Twitch “famous” and planning for the future
- 31:15 – Avoiding Twitch burnout and taking breaks
- 34:30 – Discussing Phil Hellmuth’s success and exploring opportunities
- 42:05 – How Matt makes a unique stream & playing multiple tables
- 50:00 – Having Jaime Staples as a brother
- 51:40 – Poker State of the Union
- 53:40 – YouTube strategy
- 59:30 – Hitting 100k on Twitch
- 1:02:00 – Prop bets
- 1:03:50 – Favourite win
- 1:05:00 – Gap between playing poker and streaming
- 1:08:50 – Being sponsored
- 1:10:00 – Poker idols
- 1:12:00 – Aliases and partypoker changes
- 1:19:15 – Favourite movies
- 1:20:50 – Long term plans
- 1:24:20 – Playing against Jaime Staples
- 1:28:00 – Discovering why you’re playing bad
- 1:30:20 – Bankroll strategy, Influence and Favourite Tournaments
- 1:34:00 – Dating life and lining up stream schedules
- 1:41:00 – Final thoughts and wrapping up the stream
Episode Resources:
- Matthew Staples Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matthew_stapless/
- Matthew Staples Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattStaplesPKR
- Matthew Staples Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/mattstaples/
- Matthew Staples YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbGNlQJQxhjod8BN7DQdi_A
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Saturday Apr 24, 2021
Patrik Antonius / Pro Poker Player / $12,013,263 in live tournament earnings
Saturday Apr 24, 2021
Saturday Apr 24, 2021
Patrik Antonius joins the show today to discuss his new venture ‘flop’ (First Lane of Poker). Listen in as Jeff and Patrik discuss life in Dubai and why it may become the new Las Vegas. You’ll hear how Patrik got into poker and how he has transformed his game over the years, covering big wins and tactics to iteratively improve his game.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Patrik in this episode:
- Why Dubai may be the new Las Vegas
- What flop is: First Lane of Poker
- How Patrik got into poker and what his upbringing was
- The state of online poker in the late 90’s and early 00’s
- How Patirk learned how to play Poker in the early days of the online platforms
- Why poker still has negative connotations and the work that’s being done to change the public perception of poker
- How poker can be innovated to attract bigger audiences to online and live tournaments
Timestamps:
- 0:00 - Introduction
- 0:16 – Welcoming Patrik to the show
- 0:40 – Living in Dubai and gambling in the UAE
- 5:00 – How COVID-19 has impacted Patrik and his life in Monaco
- 7:00 – Plans for WSOP
- 7:40 – First Lane of Poker: flop
- 12:00 – Pricing of flop
- 14:00 – Live Events: What is the plan for future flop events?
- 19:00 – Current flop membership and partnerships
- 22:45 – How did Patrik get into poker and what’s his story?
- 26:30 – St. Martin, 2003 Poker Tournament & Online Poker
- 31:10 – 24 Hour Poker in 1999
- 34:20 – How Patrik learned the theory of Poker
- 39:15 – Patrik’s family reaction to playing Poker
- 44:30 – The perception of poker and negative connotations
- 51:30 – Patrik’s poker stats and achievements
- 55:00 – Motivation and “dialling in”
- 59:00 – Playing tournaments after a $1M score
- 1:02:00 – Experience at Full Tilt
- 1:07:00 – How Black Friday impacted Patrik
- 1:14:30 – What skill set has poker helped Patrik develop
- 1:19:00 – Dealing with swings
- 1:26:20 – Playing televised high-stakes poker
- 1:32:50 – Twitter Questions: Favourite Place to Travel
- 1:34:45 – What would you do if you didn’t play poker
- 1:36:30 – Is Moneymaker the best looking poker player?
- 1:37:30 – Favourite online games
- 1:39:20 – What tactic do you wish you always had?
- 1:42:30 – The story of Patrik and Phil Ivey
- 1:45:50 – Favourite sports
- 1:49:00 – Favourite starting hand
- 1:52:30 – PLO Tournaments
- 1:57:25 – Bluffing strategy
- 2:00:30 – Most memorable hand/win
- 2:13:20 – Reading Russian questions
- 2:15:00 – Discussing hands
- 2:18:30 – Joining Twitch
- 2:22:50 – How did you become professional?
- 2:26:30 – Using solvers
- 2:30:00 – Playing bad hands and getting out of poor runs
- 2:32:45 – Giveaway
- 2:34:10 – What percent of your life do you play poker?
- 2:35:30 – Where you can find Patrik and flop
Episode Resources:
- Patrik’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrik_antonius_official/
- Patrik’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/patrik_antonius
- Patrik’s Stats: https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=23225
- flop (First Land of Poker): https://firstlandofpoker.com/en/
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Friday Mar 26, 2021
Anna Rudolf / Chess Grandmaster / Former Olympian / Twitch Streamer
Friday Mar 26, 2021
Friday Mar 26, 2021
Anna Rudolf joins Jeff to discuss the world of Chess and how her time playing has taken her to the Olympics. Anna is known as a Chess Grandmaster… don’t worry, you’ll learn all about Chess rankings and titles in this episode. Listen in to hear how Anna bridged the gap between Chess & Poker, by playing ‘Choker;’ and hear how she was accused of cheating because of the lipstick she was wearing.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Anna in this episode:
- Why Chess is booming currently and the effect of The Queens Gambit
- How money and sponsorships work in Chess
- What ‘Choker’ – Chess & Poker is
- How Anna became an Olympian
- How to balance competition and entertainment
- The work behind Professional Chess, Twitch & Chess
- Why Anna was accused of cheating for wearing lipstick
- How Chess rankings and titles work
- Looking back on the Soviet Union dominance of Chess
Timestamps:
- 0:00 – Introduction
- 1:20 – The Queens Gambit effect on Chess
- 3:35 – Growing up in Hungary
- 5:00 – Money in Chess
- 10:50 – Events to teach and learn Chess
- 15:00 – The Champions Story
- 17:25 – Choker: Chess & Poker
- 20:20 – The Olympics
- 27:10 – Hexagonal Chess
- 30:30 – Parents thoughts on Anna’s success
- 36:00 – Competition vs Entertainment
- 40:10 – Hobbies: Balancing Chess
- 43:05 - Call Me Kevin
- 48:20 – Twitch & YouTube success
- 51:00 – Anna’s Team
- 54:18 – Lipstick cheating accusations
- 59:30 – Cheating in Chess
- 1:03:00 – The Queens Gambit & Chess Titles
- 1:08:45 – Being “Chess Famous”
- 1:12:30 – Chess platforms and sponsorships
- 1:15:00 – Twitter Questions:
- Greatest fear
- Closest Chess players
- Favourite opening
- Weirdest place to play Chess
- Greatest Chess countries
- COVID-19 impact on Chess streaming/popularity
- Would a male player be accused of cheating in the Lipstick saga?
- 1:28:00 – How to relax: Piano, Just Dance, Family
- 1:30:30 – Avoiding burnout
- 1:32:55 – Favourite place in the world
- 1:33:45 – Goals in and outside of Chess
- 1:37:00 – Closing Thoughts and Competition
Episode Resources:
- Anna Rudolf Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annarudolf_chess/
- Anna Rudolf Twitter: https://twitter.com/Anna_Chess
- Anna Rudolf Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/Anna_Chess
- Call Me Kevin: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdoPCztTOW7BJUPk2h5ttXA
- Chessable Courses: https://www.chessable.com/profile/Anna_Chess/
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Friday Mar 26, 2021
Jennifer Shahade / Author / 2x US Women's Chess Champion / Pokerstars Pro
Friday Mar 26, 2021
Friday Mar 26, 2021
Jennifer Shahade joins Jeff to discuss her time playing Chess and Poker professionally. Jennifer is a two-time U.S. Women’s Chess Champion and PokerStars Ambassador. Listen in to hear the similarities between Chess and Poker and how you can bridge the gap between the two. You’ll also hear how The Queens Gambit has impacted Jennifer’s game and popularity.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Jennifer in this episode:
- The rising impact of women in chess
- The popularity of chess since The Queens Gambit
- How cheating is impacting online chess
- How chess compares to poker
- How the chess rating system works
- The bridge between Chess and Poker
- NFT’s and Intellectual Property in Chess
Timestamps:
- 0:00 – Introduction and learning chess
- 1:00 – Who is Jennifer Shahade?
- 3:40 – Women in Chess
- 9:30 – Rising popularity in Chess & the most watched event
- 14:30 – Money in chess (compared to poker)
- 16:25 – Chess ratings
- 17:30 – AlphaGo
- 18:05 – The Queens Gambit
- 21:35 – How Jennifer got into Poker
- 24:35 – Online vs Live
- 27:00 – Bluffing in Chess?
- 29:30 – Education and path to Pro-Chess
- 31:35 – Signing with PokerStars
- 33:35 – Future Chess and Poker predictions
- 36:20 – the GRID & Podcasting
- 42:50 – US Women in Chess Initiative
- 47:50 – Twitch Questions:
- Magnus Carlsen weakness
- Benefits of Chess on the brain
- Weirdest places to play Chess
- Favourite Poker player to play Chess
- Drinking whilst playing Chess/Poker
- Favourite Chess movie
- Tough Poker decisions (Ace/Queen Hand)
- Strong female competitors
- 59:00 – NFT’s and Cryptocurrency in Chess
- 1:02:40 – Jennifer Shahade and Anya Taylor-Joy
- 1:05:25 – Conclusion and Giveaway
Episode Resources:
- Jennifer’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenshahade
- Jennifer’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/JenShahade
- Jennifer’s Website: https://jennifershahade.com/
- The GRID: https://thepokergrid.com/
- Women in Chess Initiative: https://new.uschess.org/give/women-chess-initiative#:~:text=At%20US%20Chess%20Women%2C%20we,the%20board%20and%20building%20community
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Friday Mar 26, 2021
Friday Mar 26, 2021
Dominik Nitsche joins the show to discuss DTO and how training impacts player performance. Dominik is the founder of DTO, alongside Markus Prinz. They aim to provide the easiest way to study GTO poker. Listen in to hear how Dominik became the youngest player to 3 bracelets, how he trains his own game and why you should always be looking to improve your tactics and strategies.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Dominik in this episode:
- Becoming the youngest player to win 3 bracelets
- Why sticking to the basics could be the key to success
- How DTO was founded and what it brings to players games
- Winning the High Roller for One Drop Event
- Why you shouldn’t beat yourself up when missing out on the bubble
- What makes DTO stand out from other training sites?
- Becoming a poker ambassador
Timestamps:
- 0:00 – Introduction
- 0:15 – Current Life During Lockdown
- 5:05 – 2009: LAPT, Winning the Event
- 9:08 – What was the recipe for early success?
- 12:15 – Learning and sticking to the basics
- 14:55 – Family and Friends: Reactions to early wins
- 17:25 – DTO: The Foundation of Personal Poker Coaching
- 23:20 – “Letting Go”: How to give freedom to your ideas
- 25:25 – Who is a good fit for DTO?
- 30:45 – Winning the High Roller for One Drop Event
- 32:40 – Defining “Crushing It”
- 35:50 – How to take advantage of a situation
- 39:30 – Playing bubbles: Don’t beat yourself up
- 42:00 – How poker sites should handle cheating
- 47:45 – The competition in online poker sites
- 50:30 – Standout moments
- 54:25 – WSOP: Going bracelet to bracelet
- 1:00:30 – Using a supercomputer for DTO
- 1:02:08 – What makes DTO different?
- 1:10:05 – Issues with coaching pricing models
- 1:14:40 – The roadmap of building DTO
- 1:17:05 – Becoming a poker ambassador
- 1:19:05 – Streaming Poker: Balance of streaming and keeping secrets
- 1:25:20 – Structuring poker education
- 1:32:00 – Why aren’t some “high-rollers” improving their game?
- 1:38:40 – Differences in learning styles
- 1:40:20 – Twitch Questions
- The costs of computation during COVID-19
- Clearing your head after poker
- Relationships
- Weirdest tournament location
- Alcohol whilst playing
- Japan
- What is beginners’ luck?
- Difference between pro poker players and pro athletes
- Daniel vs Hellmuth
- DTO Pricing
- How has DTO helped Dominik’s game?
- What is Dominik’s motivation
- Living in Edinburgh
- 2:08:30 – Improving over time
- 2:11:10 – How did Dominik get into poker and how did he learn?
- 2:16:00 – Rivalries
- 2:22:00 – How to be the best & keeping up with the game
- 2:28:58 – Deviating from the book & fun hands
- 2:31:00 – Investing in Bitcoin and NFT’s
- 2:34:00 – Playing Poker in the age of COVID & plans for the future
- 2:44:00 – Why should you use DTO?
- 2:47:00 – Where you can find Dominik and DTO
- 2:56:00 – Recap and conclusion
Episode Resources:
- Dominik’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/dominiknitsche
- Dominik’s Stats: https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=125675
- DTO Poker Trainer Twitter: https://twitter.com/DTOPoker
- DTO YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMLXYPZ_cKeZFFXQ5D32Qig
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Saturday Mar 20, 2021
Joe Pompliano / Founder of Huddle Up
Saturday Mar 20, 2021
Saturday Mar 20, 2021
Joe Pompliano joins Jeff to discuss the business and money behind sports. Joe is the creator of Huddle Up, which documents the business deals, entrepreneurial ventures and off the field success of teams and players. Listen in to hear Joe’s thoughts on sport as a business, how you can invest in the success of your favourite teams and stories Huddle Up has documented, such as how an NBA player turned his $350K salary into a net worth of $600M.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Joe in this episode:
- The business and money behind sports
- How Huddle Up came into existence
- If NFT’s are a short or a long game
- How an NBA player turned his $350,000 salary into a net worth of $600M
- Who the most impressive athletes are, in terms of business
- An ETF for investing in professional sport teams
- How can clubs and players profit from NFTs
- The potential of sport cards
- The difference in influence between US & European sport stars
- How sport effects and creates popular culture
Timestamps:
- 0:15 – Introduction
- 0:45 – Who is Joe Pompliano?
- 3:26 – How Joe learned how to monetize
- 7:15 – Joe’s time at Octagon
- 8:15 – NFT’s
- 12:00 – How Joe works with his brothers
- 14:06 – Junior Bridgeman: $350,000 into $600M
- 18:20 – eSports
- 20:15 – Long term aspirations
- 22:20 – What is Huddle Up?
- 25:00 – Huddle Up Logistics / Team / Plan
- 28:35 – The most impressive athletes (in terms of business)
- 35:15 – ETF for Professional Sport Teams
- 39:24 – Franchises, teams & players, who owns the NFT?
- 48:15 – Sport Cards
- 58:52 – Teams hiring private investigators
- 1:00:00 – How to consume sport news content
- 1:01:30 – Favourite sport
- 1:02:00 – Poker as a sport / how sport differs per region
- 1:09:15 – Match fixing
- 1:11:40 – Cryptocurrency
- 1:13:10 – COVID long term effects on sport
- 1:15:10 – How to fit into the corporate finance world
- 1:18:32 – Sports effect on popular culture
- 1:22:00 – DFS prediction
- 1:25:45 – Best Huddle Up articles
- 1:28:25 - Conclusion
Episode Resources:
- Joe Pompliano’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoePompliano
- Huddle Up: https://huddleup.substack.com/
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Friday Mar 19, 2021
Friday Mar 19, 2021
Eugene Katchalov is a WPT & WSOP Champion with over $9M in earnings, who has transitioned his poker career into an Esports career. Listen in as Eugene discusses his Soviet Union background, his rise in Poker (including a $2.4M cash), and how he has co-founded and grown the Esports team ‘Qlash.’
Visit Jeff Gross -The Flow Show or find us on Apple Podcasts to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Eugene in this episode:
- How Eugene chose poker over trading in the early days
- Leaving the Soviet Union as a child to grow up in America
- The foundation of Qlash
- Eugene’s approach to learning & training poker
- Cashing $2.4M at the Doyle Brunson Classic
- How Eugene signed with PokerStars (just before Black Friday)
- How Qlash is different to Esport teams
- Will NFTs find their way into poker and Qlash?
- Qlash’s partnership with AC Milan
- Poker vs Esports: Market size
Timestamps:
- 0:00 – Introduction
- 0:15 – How Eugene Got into Poker
- 3:30 – Leaving the Soviet Union
- 6:20 – Gaming, Trading & Watching WSOP
- 11:55 – How Qlash was formed
- 18:55 – Las Vegas & Online Poker Cashes
- 21:30 – What Eugene Does to Train
- 27:05 – Cashing $2.4M
- 32:00 – PokerStars Sponsorship
- 36:20 – Eugene’s Poker Style: Preparation & Strategy
- 41:25 – Transitioning From Poker to Qlash: Current Plans
- 45:48 – The Foundations of Qlash
- 50:00 – The Scope of Qlash
- 56:30 – How does Esports Grow?
- 1:00:05 – The Qlash Team
- 1:03:00 – Sponsorships in Esports
- 1:05:42 – Favourite Poker Players to Battle With
- 1:08:10 – Deal with AC Milan
- 1:10:40 – Structure of PokerStars Deal
- 1:12:10 – Favourite Style of Poker Tournaments & Hands
- 1:15:15 – Eugene’s Family Reaction to Poker
- 1:16:45 – Summary of Poker Career: Advice to Younger Self
- 1:18:40 – Difference between Poker and Esports
- 1:22:10 – NFTs and Cryptocurrencies in Esports
- 1:24:10 – Video Games on the Rise
- 1:26:25 – Team Structure of Qlash & Fundraising
- 1:28:05 – How to Invest in Esports / Qlash Exit Strategy
- 1:33:18 – Building a Bankroll
- 1:38:15 – Handling Downswings
- 1:40:55 – Most Embarrassing Poker Moment
- 1:43:00 – Biggest Goal in Life
- 1:46:10 – Competition & Conclusion
Episode Resources:
- Eugene’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ekatchalov
- Eugene’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/EugeneKatchalov
- Eugene’s Stats: https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...
- Team Qlash Twitter: https://twitter.com/TeamQLASH
- Team Qlash Website: https://qlash.gg/
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Saturday Mar 13, 2021
Peter "CSURAM88" Jennings / Co-Founder Fantasy Labs / DFS Legend
Saturday Mar 13, 2021
Saturday Mar 13, 2021
Peter “CSURAM88” Jennings joins Jeff to discuss Daily Fantasy Sports, NFTs & Fantasy Labs. Listen in as Peter describes how he co-founded Fantasy Labs, which includes a story of how he got an investment from Mark Cuban and played a round of golf with Tiger Woods. You’ll hear Peter’s thoughts on NFTs, the current state of sports betting and how Fantasy Labs plans to grow.
Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on Apple Podcasts to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Peter in this episode:
- What DFS (Daily Fantasy Sports) is
- How Poker led Peter to Fantasy Labs
- NFTs, Bitcoin, Investments: How to be there at the right time
- The current state of sports betting
- How Fantasy Labs works
- How Mark Cuban Helped Fantasy Labs
- How Poker led Peter to Tiger Woods and Mark Cuban
- Sweating with millions of dollars on golf
- Winning with a Single Homerun
- What Peter’s parents’ reactions were to him working in the betting industry
- What it’s like winning $1M
- How 2020 Impacted Peter’s Industry
Timestamps:
- 0:15 – Introduction
- 0:45 – How Poker Led Peter to Fantasy Labs
- 4:30 – Draft Kings, How Jeff Missed Out on an Investment
- 7:20 – NFTs, Bitcoin, Investments: Being there at the right time
- 9:00 – Managing Emotions
- 11:30 – Becoming a Father
- 13:25 – NFTs
- 18:20 – The Mount Rushmore of Sports Betting
- 20:50 – Betting/Sport Card Industry
- 25:20 – Fantasy Labs: Foundation/How it Works
- 33:30 – Meeting Tiger Woods and Mark Cuban
- 36:30 – Getting into DFS
- 43:30 – Selling Action
- 47:00 – David Kaplen
- 49:00 – The Concept of a Deal in DFS / The Betting Industry
- 59:55 - $1M on the Redsox
- 1:02:00 – Parents Reaction to Peter Working in the Betting Industry
- 1:08:22 – Winning $1M at a Live Final
- 1:11:30 – How 2020 Impacted Peter’s Game
- 1:16:20 – Working Together in DFS
- 1:23:15 – Looking at DFS Statistics
- 1:31:00 – Playing Golf
- 1:33:40 – Investments in Fantasy Labs
- 1:36:50 – Gary Vaynerchuk / Different NFTs / Being Bullish
- 1:41:50 – Playing Charity Poker
- 1:43:52 – Twitch Questions
- 1:48:20 – Giveaway and Conclusion
Episode Resources:
- Peter "CSURAM88" Jennings Twitter: https://twitter.com/CSURAM88
- Fantasy Labs Twitter: https://twitter.com/fantasylabs
- Fantasy Labs Website: https://www.fantasylabs.com/
- NBA Top Shot: https://www.nbatopshot.com/
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

Wednesday Mar 10, 2021
HeyMonia / Twitch streamer / partypoker Team Online
Wednesday Mar 10, 2021
Wednesday Mar 10, 2021
HeyMonia (Monika Agnieszka Zukowicz) joins Jeff to discuss the state of poker in Europe, how she got into poker and how she went from a socially shy person to a recognizable player. Listen in as Jeff and HeyMonia discuss her upbringing in Poland and how the online poker ban has affected playing in Europe. You’ll also hear the story of how HeyMonia’s
apartment caught on fire during a live stream, along with how she had to drive an old broken down car cross country due to losing a poker challenge.
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Summary Bullets:
Here’s a glance at what you’ll hear from Monika (HeyMonia) in this episode:
- How Monika got into poker.
- Burning your apartment down on live stream!
- Convincing friends and family that poker is a legit route to go down.
- How to break through social anxiety and perform in public.
- How HeyMonia & Poland is dealing with the online poker ban.
- What Europe is like for playing Poker.
- What Monika is doing to improve her poker game.
- How women are represented in Poker and is there a need for forced diversity?
- The journey from a socially shy person to a recognizable poker player.
- Getting over the stigma of poker players before playing poker.
Timestamps:
- 0:00 – Introduction
- 0:15 – Moving Apartments
- 1:05 – Who is HeyMonia?
- 2:30 – Getting into Poker
- 12:10 – First Commentating Experience
- 14:45 – Starting Twitch & YouTube
- 16:20 – Online Poker in Poland
- 20:15 – What Poland is like
- 23:30 – Becoming a Scientist
- 26:30 – HeyMonia’s Relationship
- 29:50 – Craziest Poker Challenge
- 33:10 – Being a Professional Player
- 37:00 – Popularity of Poker in Europe
- 40:05 – Judo
- 43:20 – COVID-19
- 47:40 – Streaming with partypoker
- 49:45 – Improving Poker Skills
- 51:30 – Women In Poker
- 58:20 – Future Goals
- 1:02:09 – Learning PLO, Stigma & Languages
- 1:07:45 – Dream Place to Live & Advice to Start Playing Poker
- 1:10:30 – Dealing with Twitch Transparency
- 1:12:20 – Overcoming Obstacles
- 1:16:25 – The Best Part of Being with partypoker
- 1:20:10 – Hobbies Outside of Poker
- 1:23:05 – Coping with Moving
- 1:24:30 – Mentors in Poker
- 1:27:52 – Favourite Sports
- 1:30:45 – Favourite Tournament
- 1:32:55 – Episode Competition
- 1:33:20 - Conclusion
Episode Resources:
- HeyMonia Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heymonia/
- HeyMonia Twitter: https://twitter.com/heymonia
- HeyMonia Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/heymonia
- HeyMonia Stats: https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=264420
Podcast Links:
- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker/
- partypoker: https://www.partypoker.com/
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-gross-the-flow-show/id1463609319
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Yp1jHCaqvYsLtS7lNCGAA
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffGrossPoker

