Episodes

Monday May 27, 2019

Monday May 27, 2019
Daniel 'Jungleman' Cates - All Time Biggest Online Poker Cash Game Winner
Monday May 27, 2019
Monday May 27, 2019

Monday May 27, 2019

Monday May 27, 2019

Monday May 27, 2019

Monday May 27, 2019

Monday May 27, 2019
Antonio Esfandiari - $27,710,942 in Live Earnings Professional Poker Player
Monday May 27, 2019
Monday May 27, 2019

Monday May 27, 2019
Brian Rast - $21,562,431 in Live Earnings
Monday May 27, 2019
Monday May 27, 2019
In this episode, Brian Rast, professional poker player, scientist, cycler, and philosopher, talks about how he got into poker while attending Stanford College. Jeff and Brian discuss his biggest wins, favorite games, and how solvers have changed the landscape in poker. Listen in to hear Brian share his thoughts on bitcoin, Burning Man, and meeting his Brazilian wife – and listen in as he gives Jeff some pro tips.
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Time Stamped Show Notes:
- 01:00 – Introducing Brian, a tournament and cash game pro, and his background
- 02:00 – He went to Stanford and started playing poker there; he was a math major but dropped out
- 03:15 – He played poker for 2 years in college and has played ever since for the last 15 years; he started as a cash game player and started tournaments 5-6 years ago
- 04:40 – His parents wanted him to finish school and graduate; his dad started learning poker and his mom was less accepting of poker at the beginning
- 07:00 – The most he played was when he dropped out of school; he was playing 80-100 hours a week
- 07:45 – He plays every day during the WSOP and less for the other 10 months out of the year; he has great endurance, his longest is about 50-52 hours
- 09:00 – Poker in Macau
- 09:30 – In the U.S. people gamble in passing, on their way to something else; in Macau people arrive at 10am with tea and hit it for 24 hours straight
- 10:02 – In Macau he would regularly play 24-40 hour sessions
- 10:30 – The bicycle ride; he has detailed information about the bike bets on his blog
- 11:55 – He had no cycling experience and had to complete the ride from Vegas to LA in 48 hours without drafting or a recumbent bike; he went into 25mph winds at one point
- 14:15 – Brian’s biggest wins; He’s made over $20 million in lifetime earnings and is number one all-time in California
- 14:35 – He’s won the Player’s Championship $50,000 twice; he probably won’t play many more tournaments where he can win as much as he has
- 16:00 – He’s been playing poker since 2003 and has traveled little for poker; he didn’t have many results until 2011
- 18:00 – Playing tournaments and cash games gave him a ton of experience; people’s ability to study solvers has changed the no-limit hold ‘em game at the top
- 20:00 -He’s used solvers off and on but isn’t putting in the same work as the other guys; he likes the mixed game and understands that everyone makes mistakes
- 22:00 – The games Brian loves
- 22:50 – He loves no-limit hold ‘em; he got into mixed games because he liked learning and wanted to be in on the action near home in Vegas
- 24:30 – He’s more of a cash player, he’s not a tournament player anymore; he’s never liked travelling for tournaments
- 26:38 – Tournaments are more exciting even if cash games profit more; he hasn’t burnt out on poker and still loves it
- 28:00 – He loves the pressure and competition in poker; it’s what keeps him coming back
- 31:50 – The best session he played was in Macau; he played with super-rich guys and heavy-hitters in the poker world and the pot winner would show their hand
- 34:24 – He played hot, bluffed a lot, and everything worked; he was known as the guy that got white people kicked out of Macau
- 37:30 – There are many cash players who are great and unknown because they don’t play tournaments
- 38:30 – Brian’s thoughts on crypto-currency
- 38:53 – He recommends listening to Murad Mahmudov’s interview on the Off the Chain Podcast titled The Ultimate Bitcoin Argument
- 39:40 – He believes bitcoin is about to become an official global money; you must invest your money or else it depreciates, bitcoin doesn’t inflate or depreciate
- 42:30 – It does gold better than gold; it’ll work as long as people believe in it as a money
- 43:50 – People like it in poker to transfer large sums quickly; bitcoin makes sense to Brian as a long-term investment with some disposable income
- 53:15 – Brian’s Burning Man experience
- 53:30 – He thinks Burning Man is an awesome, unique experience; you can find whatever you want there whether it’s music and partying or art and spirituality
- 54:45 – He loves techno music, art, and principles of Burning Man; Jeff met his wife at Burning Man
- 57:10 – Brian’s biggest motivators: His family and his wife
- 57:25 – He loves his wife and what she’s done to make it work; he’s learned to be a father to his step-son with his wife’s help
- 59:00 – Now his dream is to help his son realize his dreams; he never thought he’d be that way with another person
- 59:50 – His relationship has made him better and helps hold him accountable; self-improvement is a constant thing with focus, meditation, and learning
- 01:01:00 – Both Jeff and Brian are married to Brazilians and excited to have kids soon
- 01:09:35 – When people complain
- 01:10:00 – He can let whiney losers slide, but he hates whiney winners; he hates when people berate or put others down at the table
- 01:11:05 – The impact solvers has had
- 01:11:15 – Since he’s started using the Range Converter he’s felt more comfortable in certain spots in tournaments; it’s given him structure and it makes sense to play that way
- 01:12:00 – It helps you improve your game and make adjustments; it’s important to feel confident and learn principles
- 01:15:50 – A tip for a new poker player
- 01:16:05 – Approach poker from a strong decision-making position hand-by-hand; don’t let emotions or gambling get in the way and don’t quit everything and start
- 01:20:07 – On having JG as a friend; JG thinks, plans for his friends, is generous, fun, interesting, genuine, and conscientious
- 01:21:50 – How he met his wife
- 01:22:02 – He went to Brazil with a friend 9 years ago and met her while they were out; they communicated in Spanish and it was love at first sight
- 01:23:03 – They wouldn’t allow her to visit the U.S. so he started visiting her and Skyping her; he learned Portuguese to communicate better with her
- 01:24:50 – Seeing people limp in tournaments
- 01:25:10 – People are starting to learn solvers and try out new things; you’ve got to work on your game
- 01:25:30 – The hamburger thing; he ate a Burger Lounge burger while streaming and played well
- 01:26:55 – He doesn’t care what people say, he doesn’t regret his food choice; there aren’t that many food options in casinos
- 01:32:30 – Thoughts on poker’s future
- 01:32:52 – He likes poker, but it’s slowly starting to become more solved; he wonders what the long-term future of online poker is
- 01:35:30 – Poker needs to be human vs. human; there shouldn’t be computer assistance
- 01:41:25 – He doesn’t have weaknesses anymore; he used to be bad at some games but is now better at all of them
- 01:42:10 – Poker as a zero sum game
- 01:42:30 – He never claimed to be a big service to society and believes there are many jobs out there that don’t serve society, either
- 01:43:05 – Poker isn’t unique, there are tons of jobs and industries that aren’t a service and are even a detriment to society; he’s devoting more time to other endeavors
- 01:44:20 – They sponsor a few young athletes; his work and money helps others through his wife
- 01:45:15 – He has an idea of being a citizen of earth; his wife is turning it into a concept and NGO
- 01:46:45 – He recognizes that poker is his selfish pursuit, but he can support his family and give back to society from it
- 01:49:40 – On what area Brian thinks Jeff should improve in his game
- 01:50:20 – In the past, Jeff played scared and tight; he needed to open up his game and take advantage of opportunities
- 01:51:04 – It’s a mental thing more than a technique thing; Jeff is working on that with Elliot Roe
- 01:51:45 – Jeff has had some issues with focus and flow; when they went to Cabo to play online, he’d stream and have to play and entertain
- 01:53:03 – Learning other games could be beneficial
- 01:56:10 – On prioritizing exercise and sleep to play better for longer
- 01:56:45 – He wants good results so he lines everything else around that, not the other way around
- 02:02:55 – More on bitcoin; he thinks it’s going to be worth a lot but suggests everyone do their research
3 Key Points
- Solvers have had a huge impact on poker over the past 15 years.
- Prioritize your health to play better for longer.
- A strong mindset is critical for success.
Contact/Resources

Monday May 27, 2019
Andrew Neeme - Poker Player, YouTube Poker Vlogger
Monday May 27, 2019
Monday May 27, 2019
In this episode, Andrew Neeme, a professional poker player and popular vlogger, talks about how he started vlogging and shares the valuable lessons he learned along the way. Jeff and Andrew discuss how to balance time between marriage, vlogging, studying, and playing, and they speculate on developments in poker legislation. Listen in to hear Andrew share tips to follow when sharing your own content – and get some insight on what he wishes he would’ve done from the get-go.
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Time Stamped Show Notes:
- 01:00 – Introducing Andrew and his journey
- 01:30 – He went to Michigan State University and did an internship with a music production company in London and moved back to LA
- 02:50 – 2004-2008 he dabbled in online poker; around 2008 he started playing full-time poker
- 04:20 – He moved to Las Vegas almost 10 years ago
- 04:50 – Andrew’s popular Vlog
- 05:15 – He understood and enjoyed the video medium for poker; he liked that he could connect directly to the audience and do creative storytelling
- 07:00 – He started Vlogging in October of 2016
- 08:24 – Advice for vloggers
- 08:40 – You can film from your cell phone, and the hard part is the editing; he had no idea how long it would take at first
- 10:20 – He suggests hiring someone to do the editing from the get-go; personality goes into the editing, which is hard for him to let go of now
- 12:45 – How Andrew manages his time
- 13:25 – He films and edits all his videos; he doesn’t have a science behind his social media strategy and just posts when he wants to
- 17:25 – Social media apps can easily take time away from productivity
- 19:15 – Developments in online poker legislation
- 19:45 – Everything happens slowly but he feels there is still hope and possibility; people can gamble online easily if they want to whether it’s regulated or not
- 22:21 – He’d love to road trip around Michigan and livestream
- 23:05 – Andrew’s position on team Run It Up
- 25:28 – They help with management, messaging, and branding
- 28:00 – The Vlogger in Paradise Challenge and the Andrew’s biggest tournament
- 28:30 – They got submissions from around the world; the quality of the videos and personalities were amazing
- 31:13 – It’s the biggest tournament he’s ever played; there are giveaway winners and professionals playing side by side
- 33:41 – Tournaments always have variance; the key is not to get too carried away, it’s 2.5 times bigger than the biggest buy-in he had ever played
- 40:20 – Andrew’s relationship with his wife, Busi; they met at a friend’s gathering in Las Vegas and the rest is history
- 45:00 – Stake Kings is like crowdfunding for poker players; Andrew is there
- 47:50 – The other games Andrew plays
- 48:00 – He loves PLO, 1-2-5, and 2-5-10 game in Vegas; he also likes the short-deck he played at Run It Up Reno
- 50:00 – He hasn’t gotten into mixed games
- 52:40 – What Andrew does to decompress and what content he consumes
- 52:50 – Most videos are long format; he follows a few vloggers and doesn’t watch TV
- 55:50 – His main goal this year is to focus on being more present; when you make videos you’re always looking ahead
- 57:20 – At the time of the recording, he has 150 vlogs
- 58:30 – Andrew’s meet-up games and Twitch streams
- 58:40 – They aren’t planned in advance and it’s an approachable game for most people; they’re every man’s stakes and it’s more of a social game
- 01:00:45 – They had their first meet up game tournament in Austin; it’s nice to get face-to-face with people
- 01:02:05 – He’s done about 10 livestreams and can do it simultaneously through YouTube and Twitch; Twitch is more lenient about background music
- 01:05:15 – Andrew’s future plans
- 01:05:30 – He started the videos over a year ago; he says it’s hard to say how he’ll be making a living years from now but maybe the content will change
- 01:07:50 – He doesn’t know what the future of poker holds; he said it’ll be hard to replicate the boom of years ago but regulations would be great for poker
- 01:10:20 - People recognize Andrew in the poker scene and sometimes outside of the poker room; the work he’s done is like his resume and can be done in any industry
- 01:14:50 – Advice for new vloggers
- 15:00:00 – Uploading earlier in the week at a reasonable hour is better than uploading on the weekend; as far as length, he takes as long as needed to tell the story
- 01:21:05 – An unpleasant experience at the table
- 01:21:30 – He’s never seen any fistfights; Jeff saw someone take $2,500 worth of chips
- 01:22:40 – Poker seems to be pretty chill overall
- 01:23:00 – Poker or content creation?
- 01:23:30 – Vlogging is more exciting, but poker is the income source; the YouTube revenue is helpful and pays some bills and he tries to balance all channels
- 01:24:15 – It would be daunting to create content about another subject that he doesn’t know as well as poker
- 01:25:10 – Kids and doppelgangers
- 01:25:20 – Yes, someday, and yes, he knows he looks like Aaron Rodgers and the Verizon guy
- 01:29:30 – Income streams through social media and weed
- 01:30:00 – Merchandise, YouTube income, and partnerships provide for income streams; he smokes weed very rarely
- 01:31:25 – Impacts to Andrew’s relationship due to his celebrity
- 01:31:40 – The biggest downside is that everything takes a lot of time; he has to balance his relationship with everything else
- 01:32:25 – He and his wife started a podcast called the Tells Podcast; they talk about life, poker, YouTube, pop culture, and relationships
- 01:35:58 – His family likes to see what he’s up to on YouTube; he recommends people show their family the professionalism and passion they have for the industry
- 01:37:40 – Busi plays the markets and poker is similar, so they understood each other from the get-go
- 01:38:45 – Andrew’s thoughts on staking
- 01:38:57 – He sees it as a natural part of the poker experience and helps people move up in poker stakes; just like in other businesses, people get outside investors
- 01:39:39 – You can sell a piece of yourself to friends, colleagues, or other poker players while you get used to new poker stakes; he doesn’t have a lot of experience in that
- 01:40:24 – Ask each other as many questions as possible and sign a document hashing out all scenarios
- 01:41:50 – Money management
- 01:42:19 – When he first moved to Vegas he spent too much, now he manages his money better and isn’t into material possessions
- 01:46:10 – Poker as a zero sum game
- 01:46:20 – He looks at poker like a sport like golf; there’s tours, sponsorships, and it’s a spectator sport
- 01:46:55 – If you’re doing something that makes you happy, you’ll share that happiness with the world
3 Key Points
- If you want to be a vlogger, hire an editor early on, refine as you go, and just do it!
- There are so many ways to make a living now; there’s no telling what could be possible just a few years from now.
- Staking is like a business seeking outside investors; it’s great as long as there’s good communication between the investor and the investee.
Contact/Resources
- Partner - Party Poker
- Jeff’s Website – Jeff Gross Poker
- Andrew’s Vlog - YouTube
- Run It Up - Website
- Stake Kings - Website
- Andrew’s Website
- Andrew’s Twitch
- Andrew and Busi’s Podcast

Monday May 27, 2019
Eric Damier - Founder of EarthPix and TravelSmarter
Monday May 27, 2019
Monday May 27, 2019
In this episode, Eric Damier, founder and CEO of EarthPix and TravelSmarter, talks about his inspiration for starting EarthPix and how they’ve kept a loyal following. Jeff and Eric discuss why he started TravelSmarter and how he built a platform to pass wholesale travel savings to the customer. Listen in to hear Eric share his thoughts on advertising through social media, his community of photographers, and why when his audience talks, he listens.
Visit Jeff Gross - The Flow Show or find us on iTunes to subscribe, visit previous episodes, and learn more about your host, Jeff Gross.
Time Stamped Show Notes:
- 01:00 – Introducing Eric, his journey, and the beginnings of EarthPix
- 01:30 – He grew up in L.A. and got into sales and real estate at a very young age; he started playing poker after the market crash of 2008
- 02:15 – He learned a lot about YouTube technology and built his own YouTube network in 2011-2012; he learned about the power of social media and influence
- 03:00 – He also learned about Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram and helped brands use influencers as distribution channels
- 03:30 – He and some others built EarthPix as a way to aggregate the beautiful photos others had taken around the world; they went from 0 to over 500,000 in 2 months
- 05:07 – He’s in the digital space now and is passionate about growing audiences and engaging people; he’s grown EarthPix for the last 6 years
- 06:30 – He loves Anthony Bourdain and was inspired by his time in India when he started a call center there
- 08:15 – 2.5 years ago he began travelling more and learned how to take photos and pilot a drone
- 10:15 – At first they were criticized for sharing content without credit; as they grew they learned to credited appropriately and photographers started wanting to be featured
- 11:15 – Eric is friends with Tom Anderson of Myspace who loves to travel and became a great photographer
- 13:30 – What makes EarthPix stand out from the rest
- 13:45 – They’re always the first to find beautiful and engaging content and get the first rights to a photo; they have a viral affect
- 14:50 – They have a team behind the social media strategy of the account; they have a network of photographers that send them excellent content
- 15:39 – They don’t post ads which keeps them respected by followers; they aren’t focused on monetizing their audience, rather, they provide value
- 17:15 – The underwater hotel room in the Maldives and the experience he had at the Conrad Resort
- 18:20 – The Conrad had worked with other accounts for exposure; when he approached them, he asked them about their goals and what they need
- 19:00 – They wanted to be the most followed resort in the Maldives and Eric made it happen; they told him about a secret project
- 19:30 – The underwater villa was the project and a stay at the villa is now at least $250,000
- 20:11 – The trip he and his team took to do this for The Conrad was valued at about $350,000; it was gorgeous
- 23:00 – Information about TravelSmarter
- 23:20 – Eric has engaged with his audience now more than ever before; they are passionate about travel but many say they don’t have the money
- 24:40 – He discovered a way to build a platform so that travel savings could be passed on to the customer/member/follower
- 26:05 – In the first two weeks after launch, they had over 5-6 bookings and one customer saved $3,500 in a one-week stay
- 26:45 – TravelSmarter clients are flexible and budget-conscious; by booking in advance, you have more options
- 29:00 – People are very happy with their bookings through TravelSmarter; the site is clean and clutter-free
- 30:48 – Airlines are different; their margins are thinner so savings aren’t as much
- 33:00 – On the site, you can compare their price to the public prices found on retail sites; flexible dates and places make for higher savings
- 37:20 – Pricing was based on case studies and community outreach; you can test it out for 30 days free
- 37:57 – After 30 days, it’s a 12-month membership for $9.97 a month; it’s great for domestic and international travel
- 41:20 – TravelSmarter will have a podcast soon where professional travelers will share travel tips and advice
3 Key Points
- Providing value to an audience, rather than simply trying to monetize them, is the secret to a large, loyal following.
- Eric listened to what his audience wanted and created a platform to provide it.
- Eric’s passion for travel fueled his desire to help others realize their own travel dreams.
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